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Independence Column - 6/18

Baron Huber

I talked to Baron and he has a top 4 of Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, and Arkansas with Alabama being the leader. He has yet to receive a Baylor offer. After he left Baylor Baron went directly to the Marshall camp and then to the Alabama camp. He also attended the Vanderbilt camp. Lee Smith went with him to the Marshall camp.


Andrew Richards

Andrew was at the Baylor camp last Saturday and apparently had a down day. Here is what he had to say.

“I visited Baylor Saturday. We went to Baylor’s one-day camp. It was alright. I ran a really good shuttle time. I ran my best shuttle time ever, I ran a 4.28. It’s just there were a lot of people there, and I didn’t get very many reps in 1-on-1’s and I don’t think I got very many looks from coaches. It was kind of upsetting to do so good at one camp, I think one thing I should have done was go to a 3-day camp, because, 1-day camps it doesn’t seem like you get much exposure. I just think I kind of got lost in the mix. I only got like 4 reps I think in 1-on-1.”

This guy has liked K-state from the beginning and I think that is where he ends up.


Trey Bryant

Early on in the recruiting process Trey talked about going to the same school as his buddy Marcus Shavers at Allen and a recent Arkansas commitment. Apparently that has changed.

“I don’t think that’s gonna happen any more; because, Marcus is committed to Arkansas and I don’t think I’m gonna be going to Arkansas.”

You have to like Baylor’s chances with this kid. Lamb being on board will only help. On another note Trey seems to be holding out for some other offers, and he will only list those that have offered in his list of favorites.


Anthony Harrison

A common thread I keep hearing from Baylor recruits is how much they like the staff, and Anthony is saying the same things. Here are some comments from him on some of the schools he has visited. Lot’s of interesting things not only on Baylor, just make sure you read the whole quote.

“Texas was very impressive. They did this thing when they came out of the tunnel and they chanted their theme song. That was exciting, but Texas is loaded so I don’t know if I’ll be going there. Baylor I really like the coaches. I liked Coach Morris and Coach Jackson their receivers coach. They were nice guys. They really wanted me to come down so they could see me work out in person. On the 19th I’ll probably go to Baylor or Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh coaches saw my tape and he was like man you can really play. You played quarterback, receiver, safety, linebacker. He was like where did you learn to play like that. I was like I’ve been playing since little league and whatever they want me to do I just do it. I really like A&M’s weight room. It was real nice. I really didn’t get a chance to talk to the coaches. They called me one day but he didn’t leave a number so I never got back to him. I like it there, but it’s like a country town. I don’t know if it’s a place I could stay at for 4 years. I like Oklahoma St.’s field and stuff. They made me feel real comfortable, and it’s a good school.”

He is also a teammate of Will Thanheiser[/URL] who is starting to receive some attention at QB


Marcus Jackson

Marcus is not only attracting attention as a QB, but he is also hearing it for his punting skills. According to Marcus, Oklahoma St. saw him at practice and was talking about him being offered at punter.


Patrick Smith

Patrick Smith of Concord (CA) De La Salle is taking a look at Baylor. He is the cousin of Baylor wideout Trent Shelton and is looking to get out of California. He doesn’t have any offers at this point.



A name that I accidently left out of last weeks IC is Brandon Stookey. He is a quarterback for Victory Christian in Tulsa, but will be a d-back on the college level. He was in for the 3-day camp and jumped a 35” vertical


Terrel Harris

Baylor is in the mix for this guy. We are in the final 5, but we don’t know where we stand in that 5. The Harris’s are keeping things close to the vest when it comes to naming favorites, but it looks like Oklahoma and Oklahoma St. may be in the lead for now.


Henry Dugat

Dugat is in Austin right now on his visit to Texas. He leaves tomorrow and is expected to make a decision by the early next week. We will stay on top of this and keep you guys informed.

Bear Hoop Scoop - 6/14

With much thanks due to a request by El Mariachi, we will now have a new feature on the site. Because basketball is a different animal when it comes to recruiting, we will do updates on a number of recruits is this new feature called Bear Hoop Scoop. Obviously, we will have some names drop off the list and new names added as the Bears move through the recruiting process. Initially, I am thinking that Bear Hoop Scoop will run every two weeks. If we (actually you) see fit for it to run more often than that, we will run it. In short, we will run it enough so that this site is in the loop on Baylor basketball recruiting. Also, it is important to understand that this will be a feature that will run in addition to regular recruiting updates. This will never run as a story but as a post on the message board like the Independence Column. Sometimes there is information that needs to stay within the Baylor community and need not be read by other school’s fans on a premium story. As this develops, this will also include insight into the program as well and will become a basketball dedicated “Independence Column’ if you will, though you will still get basketball information within the Independence Column. Keep your thoughts and your suggestions coming.

As with the Independence Column, one person can ruin it for everyone. If we learn that this information is being copied and pasted to another site or into e-mails and forwarded to other people, we will have to change the parameters around Bear Hoop Scoop. I want to be able to talk freely and give you my thoughts and feelings on players, situations and the program. That’s why it will be posted on the premium board and not in a story for the network to see. The information does not need to be read by everyone.

Henry Dugat PG 6-0/160 Dayton, TX – Like I said earlier. I don’t think it is beyond rational thinking to think that Baylor sits very well for Dugat and is the likely choice. Coach Drew and staff have worked him hard and made him a priority while I am of the understanding that Texas has been recruiting him because he’s such a good player but wants a bigger guard because AJ Abrams is small and they don’t want two ‘small’ guards. We’ll know much more after he visits Texas on the 18th and 19th. Could find something out later in the week. We’ll stay right on top of this and get the word to you as soon as we know.

Byron Eaton PG 5-11/210 Dallas, TX – With Byron, I tend to think that we are way on the outside looking in. He has previously listed Louisville, Cincinnati, Oklahoma State, Georgia Tech and K-State and when forced to give a sixth school, he listed SMU. SMU? I talked to one of the National Rivals.com guys tonight and he knows this situation and tends to think that Eaton is leaning towards Louisville.

Harvey Hale SG 6-4/190 Albuquerque, NM – While it would appear that Baylor is on the outside looking in, the Bears are at least in the hunt to get an official visit from the New Mexico prospect. He made it clear to me that he has not determined who would get his official visits. He did speak rather glowingly of Stan Heath and the Arkansas program and I would have to assume that they are his leader.

Terrell Harris SG 6-4/175 Dallas, TX – While he has remarked over and over that he is looking for a place that will show him that they need him, it was thought for a while that Baylor was, again, on the outside looking in. Today, I’m telling you that yes, Baylor does have a chance. The only thing that you can ask for, at this point, outside of a commitment, is for a kid to listen and all indications say that he is listening. He is really close with his family and proximity with Waco is giving us play. He also has good things to say about the staff as well as the playing time situation.

Calvin Miles SF 6-6/210 Dallas, TX – While some people might feel pretty good about Baylor’s chances with Calvin Miles, I’m not so optimistic. It seems to be a tug-o-war not unlike the Kellen Winslow vs. Kellen Winslow Jr. battle a few years back when dad wanted Michigan State and son wanted Washington. The compromise became Miami (FL). It seems that Calvin is sold on Roy Williams and North Carolina but his dad is sold on Texas for proximity reasons. In the end, I think North Carolina might be the one if Texas doesn’t get him.

Kevin Rogers PF 6-8/220 Dallas, TX – Put this guy in the same department at Byron Eaton. I don’t think we even register on his radar right now and when you couple that with the fact that Miles and he have become close while playing for Team Texas, he has to be considered very long odds for the Bears.

Rashad Woods SF 6-7/215 Cleveland, TX – It went from committed to Baylor to opening his recruited but still having Baylor in his top group to Baylor being an after thought. At this point you have to think that all thoughts of Rashad Woods coming to Baylor are gone. With close ties to the coaching staff, many thought that the connection would carry over and have some staying effect but with the school on him right now when coupled with the love that he is getting nationwide, him making the move to be in Waco just won’t happen.

Carl Sims G 5-10/165 Waco, TX - The football commit has declared and apparently been ok’ed by the Baylor staff for him to explore his pursuits in basketball as well when he gets on campus. It is still early being that he has not even started his senior year but I wouldn’t expect this to go unchanged or at least moderated. The last person to do this with great success, that I can remember, was Charlie Ward. Of course he won the Heisman Trophy and the National Championship at Florida State in 1993, then was taken in the NBA draft by the New York Knicks and had a 10-year plus, career in the NBA and never played a down of professional football. Recently Justin Gage at Missouri played football and was a good bench player for the Tigers but came out of the three spot in basketball and was really a great athlete and defensive player. Calvin Harris was a QB and tried to do it a couple years back at Maryland but after his sophomore season, Friegden basically told him to crap or get off the pot. Needless to say, the double is made much easier with a big man as opposed to guards because the guard spot requires so much skills practice and shooting that dividing time usually makes you average at both sports.

Independence Column - 6/11

It is time for another installment of the ‘Independence Column’. I will always begin with the ground rules because we will have new folks (hopefully) joining us all the time. Everything that is reported in the Independence Column must stay in the Independence Column. That's the way this deal works and the way it will always work. Sometimes the information is sensitive enough that it simply does not need to be passed on beyond the eyes of this thread.

This is a special feature for subscribers only. The reason why it is posted on the premium board is because it is the only way to ensure that the information stays here and is exclusive to the Baylor fan base that subscribes to www.InsideBaylorSports.com. This will only work if everyone helps make it work. We have been pretty good about information from this site not ending up on other Baylor sites and on other message boards and I appreciate that.


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Not a huge week for the I.C. but that is mainly because we are at a slow point in recruiting and of course the only sport left to compete in the Track and field National Championships that are running this weekend in Austin. We just decided that the Independence Column is something that should run every week and we are going to try and do that no matter how much information we have.

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So big news of the week was the commitment of Deer Park TE, Justin Akers. The conversation went really well but I was still more sold on the fact that he commented so much about his parents liking Baylor and when they all got together that they decided it was the best place for him. Now I understand how the process goes and my mother had a big part in where I went but the feel I got was that the deal is not done.

A few minutes later he made my thoughts a reality when he said that he would still take all of his visits but that he was ‘pretty’ sure that it was Baylor. One thing that he made clear was that he values the Baylor Education and in particular, the law school. That could go a long way in having a bearing on his decision.

We will stay on top of this and see how things shake down as other teams come into th picture with offers.


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Big news on the basketball front is that Henry Dugat is apparently down to Baylor and Texas. Let’s just sum up where we are on the situation. Dugat did take the time out to visit Texas A & M but they are pretty much a non-factor. He is going to visit Texas, however, and will make that visit on the 18 and 19th of this month. He should have a decision shortly thereafter. My money says that Baylor is the place for him.

The biggest thing that Baylor has in its corner is that they are putting on the full court press for his services. Texas is still going hard after a few athletes and would, I hear, like to get a player with a little more size to compliment the smaller AJ Abrams.

I was told today that he likes both schools but would probably lean towards Texas but that his parents really, really like Baylor and that he knows he could play right away and have a chance to be part of the turnaround.

We’ll stay close to this over the next few weeks as this should go down shortly after his visit to Texas on the 18th and 19th.


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The word that I got yesterday is that Calvin Miles father likes the Longhorns and wants to be able to drive to see his son play. Calvin's personal leader is North Carolina. This one could take a while to play out. I would not rule out Kansas because he has indicated that he likes them too. Baylor is not out of it but the Bears have some ground to make up.

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Josh Littlejohn – OT/DT – League City (TX) Clear Creek

Josh is 6’3” 275 lbs. and is planning to camp at Baylor, Texas, Texas St., Arkansas, and Sam Houston St. He was at both Texas and Baylor Junior Days, and has visited TCU and Oklahoma. Josh is also had a coach from Missouri come to check him out.

Josh will probably play both ways is 2004 after playing strictly offense in 2002 and 2003. He is familiar with the defensive side of the ball, because of playing both during his earlier playing days.

Josh doesn’t have a favorite but he does have a school that he feels is a little more interested than the others. Josh said, “I think Baylor seems the most interested. One of their coaches was at the very fist practice of spring, and then he came back with the head coach the day after practice ended.”


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David Allison received an offer from Syracuse University, and Syracuse is now one of David’s favorites. Also the big lineman was invited by Tom Lemmings to be one of about 20 players to attend a photo shoot at the Reliant Stadium in Houston. David was pictured and was interviewed this week for several publications by Tom Lemmings. Tom Lemmings stated to all those in attendance that they were considered the best of South Texas Region. And all could consider this their nomination for the All American Army Bowl. The first publication of this meeting will be on ESPN.com.

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Jordan Peterson Update

Jordan was recently at the Texas Tech camp where he was timed in the 40 at 4.39 and also at 4.07 in the pro shuttle/agility drill. He had a vertical jump of 36.3" and benched 185 lbs 20 times. Next camps are this weekend with Baylor on 6/12 and Texas A&M on 6/13.

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Austin Michelsen Update

Austin got the cast off of his thumb on Wednesday and is now going through intense workouts. He still doesn’t have a full range of motion in his thumb, but is working to rehab that. When he is able to touch his thumb to his pinky he should be able to perform at about 100%.

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A few tidbits on Marcus Jackson

A few comments on receiving his Baylor offer

“I got an offer from Baylor. I didn’t know they were looking at me. I hadn’t done any research on Baylor so it surprised me.”

“An offer’s an offer. I’ll take it where I can get it. I was pretty excited. I just didn’t know what to say about it. The coach just called me and was like yeah we’re going to offer you and I was like are you serious, and he was like yeah I’m serious. A couple of days before the Ragin’ Cajuns offered too.

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A few new names to watch out for on the recruiting trail

Korey Miller and Kyle Miller of Plano (TX) West, they were at the 3-day camp for an afternoon, but showed good footwork and sideline-to-sideline speed at linebacker. These guys could put on a little weight but have a good build and have room for growth. They both are about 6’0”, 190, and run a 4.6 40. Both are in the database.

Sam Franklin of Memphis (TN) Mitchell. Sam rushed for over 1,500 yards as a junior and was up for the best running back in 2A in Tennessee. He worked at both Safety and Running Back at camp and was there all week.

Jonathan Pritchard of Thorndale (TX). Jonathan has been a 2 time all-district running back at class A Thorndale. He is about 5’10” 180 lbs. and can not only run but will rip you up. He is Nationally ranked at #4 in the 180 lb. class and can put up a competition bench press of 285 lbs. He was able to put up 300 but one arm came up a little faster than the other so it wasn’t counted. He was at all three days of the Baylor camp and also worked at safety.

Baron Huber of Knoxville (TN) Powell. Baron was one player that caught your eye as soon as you started looking at who was on hand. At 6’3” 235 lbs. the Mike linebacker was physical specimen. He will be one to keep an eye out for. He came with his friend and teammate Lee Smith who is a 6’5” 235 lb. Junior defensive end. There will be more to come on these two. They were two of the these most impressive kids at the camp. For those of you who wanted to know the ‘big white kid’ was at the camp, that was Lee Smith.


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Remember

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This is just a note to make sure that you handle yourself and temper your conversation and critiques with some understanding of the reading audience.

Other than that, speak your peace, talk trash, and enjoy the site. Just wanted to say that.


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Chris Roquemore, 6'8 basketball recruit , class of 2006

Chris Roquemore

You guys probably remember hearing that Chris Roquemore[/URL] committed to us, then decommitted a while back. CR is a 6'8, 205 lb. center from Heritage Christian in Cleveland. He is widely considered to be a top 50 national recruit for his age group. Texas Roundball has him rated as the #3 player in the state of Texas for the class of 2006. Of course, all of that could naturally go up or down by the time he is a senior, but that is where he stands now.

Just so you know, we are still in good standing with this prospect. It was just too early for him to commit to anyone at the time. As you probably heard, he is saying that his top schools are Baylor, Texas, Arizona, and Uconn. I still like our chances. Nothing is certain til it's done, but we should have a good shot.

TC
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Brandon Smith, 6'6 basketball prospect, class of 2005

Brandon Smith is a 6'6, 206 pound hoops recruit out of Patrick Henry HS in Minneapolis, MN.

When I spoke with him in April, he said that his list of schools included Florida, Kansas, Oklahoma, North Carolina State, Iowa State, Wisconsin, Illinois, Georgia Tech, Connecticut and Baylor.(link[/URL])

The most current update from Rivals, michigan.rivals.com reports that Smith's top six are Stanford, Oklahoma, Marquette, Iowa State, Wisconsin and Purdue.

TC

Demond Carter, 5'10 point guard recruit -- class of 2006

Demond Carter

Demond Carter[/URL] out of Reserve Christian High School in Louisiana is one of the top point guards in the nation for the class of 2006. Hoopmasters is reporting that his top 4(not necessarily in any order) are Baylor, Duke, Texas and Oklahoma.

Carter was one of only two freshman to compete in last year’s Nike All-America Camp (Derrick Caracter was the other). The Reserve Christian product averaged 22.7 points for the high school team as an eighth-grader and 24.7 as a freshman and led the team to state titles during both campaigns. He scored 39 points in this year’s state championship game, a 72-67 double-overtime win.

TC
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Harvey Hale, 6'4 basketball prospect, class of 2005

Rivals is reporting that Baylor has started to recruit yet another prospect off of the top 100 national list. This time it's Harvey Hale[/URL] from Albuquerque, New Mexico.

Hale is a 6'4, 190 lb. point guard from Rio Grande High School. Rivals has him listed as a three star prospect, and he is ranked as the #65 player for the class of 2005. He has been receiving interest from Texas, Marquette, Syracuse, Oklahoma, Kansas, Baylor, Oregon, Cincinatti and others.

click here for the full Feb. 20th update on Hale(ultimate ticket)[/URL]

TC

Byron Eaton, 5'11 basketball/football prospect, class of 2005

Byron Eaton[/URL] is a 5'11, 210 pound point guard out of Lincoln High School in Dallas.

Eaton is ranked as a 4 star prospect, and the 57th best player overall nationally for the class of 2005. Eaton has received recruiting interest from a number of different schools, including Arizona, Kansas, Oklahoma, Syracuse, Texas, Baylor, Marquette and North Carolina.

He has been to Baylor several times for unofficial visits already.

TC
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